I fucking hate the GOP base, too.

I have developed a gag reflex anytime I hear from the republican base.

I have always seen myself as a radical moderate, with my views on issues oscillating between right and left. My views also change with the times. I believe in small government unless government has a role (economic crisis and national defense), I believe there should be a balance between regulation and free market, and I think that a large national debt is bad.

The GOP had this to say in 2002:

Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill was told "deficits don't matter" when he warned of a looming fiscal crisis.

O'Neill,
fired in a shakeup of Bush's economic team in December 2002, raised
objections to a new round of tax cuts and said the president
balked at his more aggressive plan to combat corporate crime after a
string of accounting scandals because of opposition from "the corporate
crowd," a key constituency.

O'Neill
said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget
deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a
threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan
proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney
continued: "We won the midterms (congressional
elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury
secretary he was fired.

I disagreed, and I still do. But the fucking GOP has suddenly changed its tune:

Deep public worry about the federal budget deficit has jumped since
December, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, upping the
ante on the White House's fiscal responsibility summit that kicks off
later this morning.

Figures. Its just team sports with these assholes. If someone has an R in front of their name, they are right. The American coffers are filled with unlimited funds in the pursuit of Iraqi freedom, but if I need unemployment money to survive I can go fuck myself.

Too bad that the only way out of a severe economic downturn is government spending. The GOP is willing to ride their principles off a cliff because a severely bastardized version of their ideology got us into this mess. When people tell you that GOP ideas got us here that isn't true, its was a mutation of conservative ideals. The concept of cutting taxes and getting into two wars was revolutionary, no one had the balls to drive us into that much oblivion until Bush. It was irresponsibility in the highest order, but the GOP allowed it and for that they have zero credibility in this debate.

I don't think its a good idea to get into this much debt, but the Bush presidency has left us no choice. There is simply not an area that Bush did well, the economy just being the crescendo that the whole symphony was building toward. Bush made a ton of bad decisions, and the economy was the final reaction to all of that. Everyone knew we were heading for economic ruin (even me) except for Bush.

My more right wing friends toss their extended index finger into the air, excited to make the point that when America went to war in Europe, the economy started to boom. We have been at war in Arabia for 7+ years now, with no help at all. Dubai did well with our cash, but we have nothing. Remember what all of that was tho: Government spending!!! Where do you think those tanks came from? Magic?!

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  1. Couple things.
    “When people tell you that GOP ideas got us here that isn’t true, its was a mutation of conservative ideals.”
    Actually, it was the GOP ideas that got us here. The GOP is a party, and the party decided that inflated military spending while not investing in any really productive areas of the economy, on top of deregulation in several industries is a huge part of the problem. Maybe deregulation is a conservative ideal, but increased spending is not. That is a GOP thing. There actually haven’t been many conservatives since Barry Goldwater, with a very limited number of exceptions (Ron Paul for one).
    A couple of the problems with Bush’s wars and spending is that military spending is not particularly stimulative these days. Weapons spending is not labor intensive as it was in WWII, it is resource intensive. Making smart missiles and Abrahms tanks doesn’t employ nearly the number of people that the heavy industry required to make a WWII era army from the ground up required. That, and the G.I. bill did a lot to jump start the economy (along with the New Deal legislation which was also doing the job, albeit much slower).

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